fnord wrote:

I don’t know Headkicker.  Should you ever have the misfortune to become single now that you are past your twenties, you will quickly discover that most of the people in your age group that are in the dating pool have the emotional maturity of a nine year old.

Oh god it's awful, and I'm still in my twenties.

At 9, my knowledge of all things flirting was confined to "throw small rocks at the ones you like."

Well, if it makes you feel any better, it's no better for those of us in the 10-percent bracket. Like a lot of people, I feel like I'm too damned busy to really pursue a relationship right now, and most of the guys I meet seem to be hunting husbands as if they're afraid they're going to die tomorrow and they have to GET MARRIED RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

I had what might loosely be referred to as a date a few weeks ago, and after a fairly decent bout of sex, the guy began reading a poem - taped to his refrigerator - about the need to share one's feelings with others and telling me how wonderful I am. I couldn't get out fast enough.

I'm all for promiscuity and I'm all for dating, but can't there be an evening of dinner and a movie before pledging emotional honesty and intimacy?

Taint wrote:

Well, if it makes you feel any better, it's no better for those of us in the 10-percent bracket. Like a lot of people, I feel like I'm too damned busy to really pursue a relationship right now, and most of the guys I meet seem to be hunting husbands as if they're afraid they're going to die tomorrow and they have to GET MARRIED RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

I had what might loosely be referred to as a date a few weeks ago, and after a fairly decent bout of sex, the guy began reading a poem - taped to his refrigerator - about the need to share one's feelings with others and telling me how wonderful I am. I couldn't get out fast enough.

I'm all for promiscuity and I'm all for dating, but can't there be an evening of dinner and a movie before pledging emotional honesty and intimacy?

Ten percent my ass.

pALEPHx wrote:

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Ten percent my ass.

Ten percent want what?

2-3% maybe.

Taint wrote:

jesusluvspegging wrote:

pALEPHx wrote:

Ten percent want what?

2-3% maybe.

Ten percent's a metaphorical number. Two to 3 percent is far too low. The actual numbers of people who live openly as gay is probably less than 10 percent but far higher than your estimate. You obviously have no idea how much industry/business caters to gay clientele on just about every level of society. If there's a "straight" business, there's a gay equivalent to match it.

I'll give you as much as five.  Also, I think your sampling may be skewed by where you live.  I'm in Atlanta, which is the definitive fag capital of the South, and I work in theater.  THEATER.  It's replete with homos, sure, but one out of ten people in the general population?  Where are they all hiding?  And let's not forget the smaller communities that haven't had queers moving to them for years and years to puff up the numbers.

USDHHS says about 1.6%, which is obviously too low.  3% is my personal estimate.  It's nowhere near Kinsey's ten.

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headkicker_girl wrote:

jesusluvspegging wrote:

I'll give you as much as five.  Also, I think your sampling may be skewed by where you live.  I'm in Atlanta, which is the definitive fag capital of the South, and I work in theater.  THEATER.  It's replete with homos, sure, but one out of ten people in the general population?  Where are they all hiding?  And let's not forget the smaller communities that haven't had queers moving to them for years and years to puff up the numbers.

USDHHS says about 1.6%, which is obviously too low.  3% is my personal estimate.  It's nowhere near Kinsey's ten.

You're in the theater and STRAIGHT and can't get any ass?  You really must be elephant man fugly or something.

It's not a matter of can't.  It's a matter of won't.  (Plus most actresses don't engage in fuckery with the backstage crew because they are shallow cunts).

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fnord wrote:

I don’t know Headkicker.  Should you ever have the misfortune to become single now that you are past your twenties, you will quickly discover that most of the people in your age group that are in the dating pool have the emotional maturity of a nine year old.

Women do age like cars...not like wine.

Hppft. Those are just the people who submit to studies and questionnaires. It's not like I said "50% of all men would suck cock for X amount of money." Because THEN we'd have a real innerestin' dish-kusshin.

headkicker_girl wrote:

A pox on everyone who buys this book.

When society starts getting dating advice from a 9-year-old, we're fucked.

PS -- Sounds like it was written by Dirckman.

My dating advice is actually pretty simple....   Avoid dating any women past the age of twenty six because they're desperate as hell to get married and want real "relationships" not fun.....  The perfect aged woman is twenty two years old because they like drinking and fucking as much if not more than most men...  Avoid overly religious women because after all the fun they tend to go on incredible guilt trips...

Bigcat wrote:

My business is A/C in mining equipment. Bulldozers and shit like that.Dirty and dangerous. What would be the gay equivalent to that? Just curious.

It is hard to imagine that there isn't something wherever men gather to mine deep dark holes.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

I'll give you as much as five.  Also, I think your sampling may be skewed by where you live.

My sampling isn't reflective of San Francisco. I've lived in rural towns with populations ranging from 200 to 5,000 people in Arkansas, California, Alaska, Ontario, and Vermont. I've lived in big cities in New York, Quebec, Alaska, and California. I lived for a year in fucking Antarctica. I have a pretty good idea about who lives where.

You, Jesuslovespegging, a twenty-something-year-old who apparently gets much of his sexual knowledge from Dan Savage, need to get out a little more.

And Bigcat, I've worked construction in the Antarctic, Vermont, and California, been a firefighter and EMT, own guns, lived in the backwoods of Alaska, and a cattle ranch in California. I can guarantee you I wasn't the only homo in any of those environments. One of my current housemates is a carpenter, and an old friend is a beer brewer. I have other friends who are also firefighters and farmers. A buddy of mine used to be a rodeo competitor, but not on the gay rodeo circuit.

The difference is that a lot of guys may not feel very secure being open about themselves in those environments, so they're unlikely to talk about their lives with guys they perceive as straight.

Amusingly this indicates that the gay-boys wish to increase their percentages to appear to be more normal all the while pretending to embrace the queer monikor.  The anti-gay boys wish to depress the percentages for exactly the opposite reasons.  Meanwhile the lesbo's have given up on men all to together and get their attention wherever it is offered with a sense of dignity.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Way to ignore the statistics and go straight to the ad hominem.   Stay classy, Taint.

As Pale pointed out earlier, a lot of guys who have sex with other men don't identify as gay. The whole concept of gay is a modern construction. Even ancient societies which condoned and accepted the idea of same-gender sexual activity didn't isolate those persons - it appears they simply acknowledged that some guys liked fucking other guys and other guys weren't all that into it.

For the sake of argument, I'll agree that five percent of the population identifies as gay. The number of people, men specifically, who have sex with other men but do not identify as gay, is much higher. Not astronomically, but it is quite a bit higher. Many still believe they have a great deal to lose by identifying as gay, others simply do not relate to gay men, and others had one or two isolated experiences and left it at that.

Sexuality is not a cut and dried experience, for anyone. I've never had sex with a woman, I have no desire to have sex with a woman, I can't imagine I ever will have sex with a woman. But at 42, my sexual tastes are certainly different than they were 20 years ago.

If anyone here at High Street can say their sexuality - whatever their orientation - has remained the same throughout their lives, they're either having no fun or lying. Or both.

Taint wrote:

The number of people, men specifically, who have sex with other men but do not identify as gay, is much higher. Not astronomically, but it is quite a bit higher.

True, you can claim the guy who fucks traffic signs and goats as yours, but that doesn't make him gay, that just makes him the guy that will fuck anything.

Taint wrote:

Sexuality is not a cut and dried experience, for anyone.

Except for the hard core straights and gays

Taint wrote:

I've never had sex with a woman

You must be crazy, the vagina was designed specifically to accept the penis and provide it with optimum stimulation & pleasure, nothing else even comes close, not within a thousand miles.  You sound like the woman who refuses to eat chocolate based on the idea that she might like it.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Taint wrote:

If anyone here at High Street can say their sexuality - whatever their orientation - has remained the same throughout their lives, they're either having no fun or lying. Or both.

I think you under estimate the range of human sexuality.

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I'm saying precisely that the range of human sexuality is very broad and that we will experience an equally broad range of experiences over our lifetimes.

What you find attractive or stimulating now, I'm willing to bet, is not the same as what titillated you when you were 18, and it won't be the same as when you're 40, or 50.

Taint wrote:

Emmy, you're full of shit. You're not wired to be attracted to guys. I'm not wired to be attracted to women. If orientation were that fluid, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Aside from preferences and attractions (which I won't argue); the reality is anal sex is arguably the same regardless of the gender of the fuckee.  Therefore you, by your own admittance, lack the experience to comment on this matter.

To be frank, nothing at all compares to the velvety strength and pheremones of a vagina you are returning home to (from a long absence).

Nothing against your gayness, but you just have no idea...


(on a side note: avoid the virgins - tighter than a resisting anus but not worth the emotional turmoil)

Emmeran wrote:

Taint wrote:

Emmy, you're full of shit. You're not wired to be attracted to guys. I'm not wired to be attracted to women. If orientation were that fluid, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Aside from preferences and attractions (which I won't argue); the reality is anal sex is arguably the same regardless of the gender of the fuckee.  Therefore you, by your own admittance, lack the experience to comment on this matter.

To be frank, nothing at all compares to the velvety strength and pheremones of a vagina you are returning home to (from a long absence).

Nothing against your gayness, but you just have no idea...


(on a side note: avoid the virgins - tighter than a resisting anus but not worth the emotional turmoil)

I feel I can say the very same things. Nothing I say is going to change your mind, nor you mine. Nothing against your heterosexuality - some of my best friends are that way - but you just have no idea...

And, yes, avoid the virgins. I believe we can all agree on that.

Taint wrote:

Sexuality is not a cut and dried experience, for anyone. I've never had sex with a woman, I have no desire to have sex with a woman, I can't imagine I ever will have sex with a woman. But at 42, my sexual tastes are certainly different than they were 20 years ago.

And for that the chickens in the greater Bay Area thank you.

opsec wrote:

What kind of freak fucks traffic signs?!

This kind of freak.

Bigcat wrote:

I wasn't trying to be insulting or suggest I was more of a manly man than you. I was just looking for a funny analogy. Hard to decifer tone on the internet. Heysusluvspegging provided the bit of nasty humor I was looking for.

Homos. God, they're touchy sometimes.

icangetyouatoe wrote:

Fortinbras proves what Fnord is saying.

Logic fault. Does not compute, does not compute...