I Survived The Bush Presidency

not Iraq

AladdinSane wrote:

OK, then, tell me what OwlGore^tm would've done after 9/11...

The Clinton Administration (which included Al Gore) warned the incoming Bush administration to pay attention to Bin Laden, that his group was planning to hijack planes to use as weapons.  The Bush team ignored the warning and 9-11 was the result.  The neo-conservative justification tap dance is degrading to the dancer, especially when performed by someone of your complexion.

As anti-Bush as I am - and I'm probably the most militant here - let's not assume that Gore and Kerry (and Obama as well - whom I voted for) are not politicians.

These bastards, all of them - the new-breed included, will say anything up unto the actual selling of their soul for a vote.

Yes Gore is righteous now, but so is Palin - this is because they are also rans and their respective careers are dead.


If you want change what you have gotten is a change - of stationary mostly.

To think that Obama can weather Pelosi, Boxer, Reid and the money is ridiculous.  The game is over before it started.


To paraphrase:  "Hail to the new boss, same as the old boss"

oh and "we won't be fooled again"



"ahhh yaahh"

Emmeran wrote:

All of you smart people need to breed more...

We put it off for the first 12 years.  Career, recording studios, travel, drugs, what ever.  After the spawn came on the scene, we rather liked the whole idea, but couldn't justify the impact on the globe and others with another of ours.  I put it all to rest until I went back into the corporate world, and discovered that the typical Fundie Family had at least 5 of the little bastards.

Indeed, we are fucked.

Emmeran wrote:

Dirckman wrote:

AladdinSane wrote:

OK, then, tell me what OwlGore^tm would've done after 9/11...

After 9/11 the Americans needed an enemy and that enemy was Islam....  The enemy to common sense, freedom, individual thought and rationality will always be religion and Islam is one of the worst....  I will never bad mouth the concept of converting any of the religious fucktards into a red mist....

Islam, more so than Christianity, has proven over the centuries to be better at true science; by far more scientific discoveries and advances were made during the reign of Islam.

Too bad these days Islam and Christianity have both retreated to neandrethal thoughts and goals... why is it the idiots always win in the end??


All of you smart people need to breed more...

Islam didn't give us algebra and optics, the Babylonians did....  The Middle East would have continued to be the center of science and philosophy if it wasn't for Islam destroying the minds of the people....  The same can be said for Christianity throughout history.....  Religion does nothing but destroy progress.....

I was listening to the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast today and they mentioned that the number one thing a person can do to increase their carbon footprint is to have a child......  I personally could give a shit or less about my carbon footprint, but knowing that little fact allows me to feel just a little bit smug knowing that somehow I'm doing my part and all those people with kids are somehow niave to the needs of our fragile planet....

Dmtdust wrote:

"They actually invented very little."

But they preserved what the Xians burned, following the Judaic example of scorched earth policies to what went before.

If I recall correctly - didn't the Irish ship their collection of works off to the Muslims in Spain for safe keeping?


I stick to my guns on the concept that religion is merely a tool used by politicians and always has been ever since the first shaman discovered he could have more power than the mightiest warrior king just by shaking his rattle.

Taint wrote:

I've read that argument before, but medieval Muslims are to be credited for recognizing such creativity and seeing its value to civilization over all. When you look at the accomplishments of the early Muslim world (and for illustrative purposes I am ignoring the Muslim conquests which took many of these accomplishments so far afield), you see brilliant examples of art, science, architecture, astronomy, and engineering. They truly accomplished great works of beauty. It's a pity for everyone involved the Ummah's been hijacked by neanderthals.

Edit: Oh, and in the same spirit of today's Neanderthalism, I suggest we haul every one of those fucking neo-cons out into the streets and blow them away. Fucking waste of DNA.

Hasn't it also been argued that they were merely continuing the practices of the Mongols?

If we are going to be lynching, let's start with Milton Friedman...

sic wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

If we are going to be lynching, let's start with Milton Friedman...

two years and two months too late  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

We can grind up his bones and force feed them to Cheney.