Roger_That wrote:

Yeah, but i offer you the coup de gras:

http://www.chiaobama.com/

That is fucking sweet.

sofaking wrote:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk16 … 6z1nat.jpg

I had not seen this picture before.  It is all kinds of win.

Roger_That wrote:

Yeah, but i offer you the coup de gras:

http://www.chiaobama.com/

Is this a great country or what?

Dirckman wrote:

Link to YouTube page

Dirckman, please tell me you're not stupid enough to actually believe the commentary on this video.

Dirckman wrote:

Look at it this way....  What if a white conservative said the exact same thing only in reverse, heads would be rolling....  Call me stupid, but I believe in the best person for the job....  This is nothing more than another form of welfare......

It was a bizarre way to phrase whatever it is he was trying to say. I think he was trying to say that we shouldn't be giving stimulus funds to the same people that always get it--that it should have a broader base than just roads and bridges. I don't know why he brought race into it.

On the other hand, it does seem like a pretty bad idea to get money to the chronically poor, i.e. those who are chronically unable to handle money.

Dirckman wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

Dirckman wrote:

Link to YouTube page

Dirckman, please tell me you're not stupid enough to actually believe the commentary on this video.

Look at it this way....  What if a white conservative said the exact same thing only in reverse, heads would be rolling....  Call me stupid, but I believe in the best person for the job....  This is nothing more than another form of welfare......

Okay, you are that stupid.  Look, what they're talking about is the fact that they want to stimulate the economy, and infrastructure projects are one way to do that, but if we do it the way it was done after the Depression we will be injecting money directly into only one segment of the population. It has nothing to do with preventing white people from doing construction jobs, it's about not using the money in a way that will only affect one segment of the population.

Are you familiar with the concept of confirmation bias?

tojo2000 wrote:

Dirckman wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

Dirckman, please tell me you're not stupid enough to actually believe the commentary on this video.

Look at it this way....  What if a white conservative said the exact same thing only in reverse, heads would be rolling....  Call me stupid, but I believe in the best person for the job....  This is nothing more than another form of welfare......

Okay, you are that stupid.  Look, what they're talking about is the fact that they want to stimulate the economy, and infrastructure projects are one way to do that, but if we do it the way it was done after the Depression we will be injecting money directly into only one segment of the population. It has nothing to do with preventing white people from doing construction jobs, it's about not using the money in a way that will only affect one segment of the population.

Are you familiar with the concept of confirmation bias?

I'll just ignore the ad hominem attack there and bring up the fact that what he says is about as philosophically far from my personal philosophy of individualism as it comes...  The guy brought the concept of race into the issue concerning where the monies from this program should go regardless of the skill level of people needed for these programs....  Get a life.....

Dirckman wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

He brought up the subject of race because they were talking about a study done on the effect of the stimulus, and that was one of the areas that was brought up as a possible flaw to re-creating the WPA.  If we concentrate on bridges and roads so clearly this time then the average recipient of the stimulus will be people who already have no problems getting jobs and construction workers, who are primarily white and male.  In order to have the biggest impact on the economy we can't be focusing the money on one demographic like that.

The people who can easily get jobs can do so because they are a COMMODITY!!!  If you're a a commodity you should not be punished for having a valuable skill, you should be rewarded....  If you do not have any skills which people in a free market are willing to pay for, why should we take the money from successful individuals and businesses and give it to you?

This isn't about "giving" money to anyone.  They didn't say they wanted to give money to people of different races regardless of skill, you're confusing the commentary and your own confirmation bias with what was actually said.  This is about stimulating the economy, that's why it matters that we don't funnel the money into only one area or in areas where it is going to end up stashed in the bank instead of flowing into the economy.  Once we've ensured that the quality of the services is sufficient, what matters is the effect on the economy, not whether Dirckman thinks it's fair.  The idea that the only people who are unemployed are those that have nothing to offer is also patently ridiculous.  It may be more true in certain areas of the country, but there are only so many millions of jobs the country can afford to lose without having people who are willing to contribute and have something to offer be unable to find a job.

tojo2000 wrote:

Do you really think that if that is what he said it would not be all over the news everywhere instead of on some shitty YouTube video?

No

tojo2000 wrote:

The idea that the only people who are unemployed are those that have nothing to offer is also patently ridiculous.  It may be more true in certain areas of the country, but there are only so many millions of jobs the country can afford to lose without having people who are willing to contribute and have something to offer be unable to find a job.

Been outside of that White Tower lately?  All those jobs are now filled by Latin Americans.

You truly don't know what you are talking about.

These guys are trying to earmark recovery money to their constituents - regardless of the impact on the nation. This why the country is in the shitter.

This is a worship thread.

You guys are making it lame.

Now go find some funny pics of Obama to make up for laming up my awesome thread.

I really wanted to see this thread die, but I didn't want to give this link it's own thread so....

Beat Obama with Law! Not Violence! (and multicolored fonts)

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C'mon, man, somebody got banned recently for doing this.

It's a weekday and our luckier cohorts are at work.

Make it stop, please.