I’ve always suspected the Radical Conservatives were a bunch of closet teabaggers.  I’m glad someone had the courage to out them.

Edit:  Thanks George!  This is now on our MySpace page.

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MSG Tripps wrote:

More Teabagging Fun

Fucking terrorists.

headkicker_girl wrote:

It always amazes me how the right can manipulate the stupid to support their causes and even advocate against their own self interest.

And there you have the secret of their success.

tojo2000 wrote:

Some people from work posted pictures of their local tea party.  It was all old people.  Now, there's nothing wrong with old people per se, but I'm perplexed at how they found so many septugenarians and got them all in one place outdoors.

The same fine folks, no doubt, who gave us Prop 13.

Taint wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

It always amazes me how the right can manipulate the stupid to support their causes and even advocate against their own self interest.

And there you have the secret of their success.

orangeplus wrote:

The thing I really dig about this "movement" is that it's so meta. Teabagging is not a sexual practice. No one is "into" teabagging. Teabagging is an artifact of the video game Halo, where you can crouch your character up and down over the body of a fallen opponent, which looks like you are dipping your junk in his mouth, natch. These guys are being taunted with a play on their name, they think the taunt is a reference to some weird practice the fags are all into, which no one actually really does. And that's not even getting into the any actual political messages.

C'mon now. You're older than that.

I was Teabagging on Rogue Spear years before Halo came out.

But...but...but...Ivory tower liberals!

Man, this shit is driving the left absolutely nuts...

How far off-base did Keith jump there?

I love it!

ptah13 wrote:

Man, this shit is driving the left absolutely nuts...

How far off-base did Keith jump there?

I love it!

Oberman is spot on this time.  This movement has about as much lasting momentum as the Texas or Alaska separatists.  The moronic wage slaves will go back to taking it up the ass from the rich and continue to blame government and affirmative action for their failures in life.

Scotty wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

And if you listen to the tax rebellion talking points, these cretins don't even understand the history of the Boston tea party.

Someone(Steve King(R) from Iowa I believe) actually hit the nail on the head at the one I attended last night.  The Boston Tea Party was about "Taxation without Representation."  He said the situation has been reversed now.  As of last year estimates are that 50% of income earners pay no taxes at all and actually are now net tax consumers(for those of you in Rio Linda that means you don't pay in yet still receive a refund).  This year the estimates are that tax payers will become the minority with somewhere between 51 and 53% of income earners having no tax liability.  The bottom half of income earners in this country now have "Representation without Taxation."

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Does he count the amount of taxes that go missing from the corps to tax havens?

headkicker_girl wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

Man, this shit is driving the left absolutely nuts...

How far off-base did Keith jump there?

I love it!

Oberman is spot on this time.  This movement has about as much lasting momentum as the Texas or Alaska separatists.  The moronic wage slaves will go back to taking it up the ass from the rich and continue to blame government and affirmative action for their failures in life.

No he's not, HKG.  He has you leftists in his grip trying to get you to continue spouting off bullshit nonsense about corporate taxes.  Corporations are tax aggregators, they collect taxes as an unofficial arm of the IRS, they pay no taxes.

All the money going overseas would flood back into this country if the IRS were eliminated and the tax code overhauled.

tojo2000 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

And if you listen to the tax rebellion talking points, these cretins don't even understand the history of the Boston tea party.

Someone(Steve King(R) from Iowa I believe) actually hit the nail on the head at the one I attended last night.  The Boston Tea Party was about "Taxation without Representation."  He said the situation has been reversed now.  As of last year estimates are that 50% of income earners pay no taxes at all and actually are now net tax consumers(for those of you in Rio Linda that means you don't pay in yet still receive a refund).  This year the estimates are that tax payers will become the minority with somewhere between 51 and 53% of income earners having no tax liability.  The bottom half of income earners in this country now have "Representation without Taxation."

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

First of all, it's up to 40%.  Second of all, that accounts only for income taxes, not payroll taxes, sales taxes, etc.  Finally, this is mostly a result of the Earned Income Tax Credit, which has been around since 1975.

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Exactly.  100% of those people pay sales tax, and I'm guessing that a good portion pay state tax.  And you are right about the EIC.  The same morons who are out at these tax rallys also benefit from the EIC, which is nothing new.  And lets not forget that it BUSH who started the stimulus checks.

But lets face it...the corporations won this round.  Once again the focus is on the poor who get a few scraps and the tax havens come out unscathed.

Scotty wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

Man, this shit is driving the left absolutely nuts...

How far off-base did Keith jump there?

I love it!

Oberman is spot on this time.  This movement has about as much lasting momentum as the Texas or Alaska separatists.  The moronic wage slaves will go back to taking it up the ass from the rich and continue to blame government and affirmative action for their failures in life.

No he's not, HKG.  He has you leftists in his grip trying to get you to continue spouting off bullshit nonsense about corporate taxes.  Corporations are tax aggregators, they collect taxes as an unofficial arm of the IRS, they pay no taxes.

All the money going overseas would flood back into this country if the IRS were eliminated and the tax code overhauled.

Scotty, that's Boortz's opinion and is not supported by any basis in reality.  Show me the economists who back up this nut's claims.  We saw in the 80s that trickle down economics doesn't work.  Corporations should not be allowed to operate in the US but be sheltered in the Caymans to avoid taxation.  If you don't want to pay taxes, don't open a fucking business. Talk about entitlements...the rich claim more entitlements than anyone.

headkicker_girl wrote:

Scotty, that's Boortz's opinion and is not supported by any basis in reality.  Show me the economists who back up this nut's claims.  We saw in the 80s that trickle down economics doesn't work.  Corporations should not be allowed to operate in the US but be sheltered in the Caymans to avoid taxation.  If you don't want to pay taxes, don't open a fucking business. Talk about entitlements...the rich claim more entitlements than anyone.

Actually that isn't his opinion but is research from the FairTax organization.

You have kids.  It's very simple.  You get more of the behavior you reward and less of what you punish.  Higher taxes are punishment.

Scotty wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Scotty, that's Boortz's opinion and is not supported by any basis in reality.  Show me the economists who back up this nut's claims.  We saw in the 80s that trickle down economics doesn't work.  Corporations should not be allowed to operate in the US but be sheltered in the Caymans to avoid taxation.  If you don't want to pay taxes, don't open a fucking business. Talk about entitlements...the rich claim more entitlements than anyone.

Actually that isn't his opinion but is research from the FairTax organization.

You have kids.  It's very simple.  You get more of the behavior you reward and less of what you punish.  Higher taxes are punishment.

And who does the fair tax benefit?  The rich.  Ding, ding, ding.  If you make 20,000 per year, being taxed at a rate of 13% hurts a lot more than if you makes $200,000 or $2,000,000.  It's really a way to keep an American ruling class in power indefinitely, and to keep the poor as peasants.  And it's brilliant because it relies on the poor to actually do the dirty work.

tojo2000 wrote:

Reading material for Scotty.

I believe the focus of the topic is income taxes so if you want to be purposefully obtuse please continue to do so.  After factoring in the EIC the 12% you are claiming I am overestimating become net tax consumers as well with respect to even paying in to MC or SS.

The FairTax eliminates all taxes, income, SS and MC.  It makes America into the largest tax haven in the world.  Why not give it a shot?  Power and control.

Scotty wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

Reading material for Scotty.

I believe the focus of the topic is income taxes so if you want to be purposefully obtuse please continue to do so.  After factoring in the EIC the 12% you are claiming I am overestimating become net tax consumers as well with respect to even paying in to MC or SS.

The FairTax eliminates all taxes, income, SS and MC.  It makes America into the largest tax haven in the world.  Why not give it a shot?  Power and control.

No, the topic was "Representation without Taxation".  You're the one being purposely obtuse.  The effective tax rate on people who "don't pay taxes" in your book is in many cases higher than those who do.   By narrowly construing your definition of "paying taxes", you get to trot out this amazing statistic that shows how unfair everything is for you (and me, and most of us on this board).

Scotty wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

And who does the fair tax benefit?  The rich.  Ding, ding, ding.  If you make 20,000 per year, being taxed at a rate of 13% hurts a lot more than if you makes $200,000 or $2,000,000.  It's really a way to keep an American ruling class in power indefinitely, and to keep the poor as peasants.  And it's brilliant because it relies on the poor to actually do the dirty work.

That isn't true at all.  Apparently you, like most leftists, don't even have the common courtesy to read up on what you knee jerk about.

Oh, my god, you mean you have a policy paper that claims that the FairTax would be better than the current system?  Well, then, I guess we all owe you a big apology.

I was at a teabagging "do" just the other evening, but it was a private affair that took place in moi's bedroom with moi's best girl.  The result had nothing to do with a leafy brewed beverage, but more like just plain good, golden, syrupy-viscous love puddin'.   

And if I may add this vital home safety tip: along with fire alarms, extinguishers, child safety locks and green cleaners, I've come to appreciate the untold value of keeping an industrial grade eye-wash at the ready at all times, preferably not far from the master bedroom. 

Hiya Georgie-Girl!

Kisses?   

mmmmMMah!
....

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Horseonovich wrote:

... and might I just add (knowing full well that it's just bad manners to post contiguously here within these halls, these hallowed halls)  that I could not have hand-picked a more appropriate thread to mark my triumphant return on, nor felt more blessed that said thread was started by one of my all time favorite people in the world!

YeeHee!

As you see, we have unbanned you.

Behave yourself.

I wonder how much offshore money these businesses have. The ones being bailed out by you and me?

This sure must be funny to them. Having the power of the left working so hard to get them cash, at the expense of the masses.

Good job, lefties!

ptah13 wrote:

Who said his name 3 times?

HKG, was it you?

Not one of you seems to "get it". The tea party isn't about "lets not pay tax", it's about a billion dollars ...... bleh, bleh...... by banks, big auto and anyone else who...bleh .... bleh .... Har har har... I find it all funny. I find it hillarious that over 10 people I know who voted for the guy are FURIOUS  ... bleh ... left, who is supposed to be AGAINST big business  ...bleh ...bleh .... totally funny that you all defend this till you're blue in the face, while the "corporate evil executives" ....bleh ... their way to the bank.

Sorry, Tar, gotta fuck witcha, old friend and crony.  Please take no offense.  And dare I draw from my usual stable of Horse-icistic response-icals, but your "inner rage" is blatant despite your har-hars.  Come on, Tar, let's face the facts here.  Everyone has zero clue where all this is going.   I lean left, true, and I too am concerned and cautionary about what is being done.  But no more or less concerned than I was pre-2009, my friend.  Bush, Bam: crapshoot, any questions?

This thread was more about the teabagging, which really tickles me (umm, I coulda phrased THAT one better, but I am leaving it lay even though I am in Edit mode right now doing this parenthetical entry -- just to show I'm a good fucking sport, huh?).  Fuck the rest, cuz there isn't a damned thing we can do about it.   With this whole "teabagging" publicity caper, Republican/Conservative ineffectiveness has simply been put on proud display.  That's all we're talking abouit.

Anyone got anything substantial before MOI declares this thread to be no longer of value?

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Horseonovich wrote:

Tojo and me on the same page with this?  whoodafuckin thunkit?

( PS - Sofie, am I being a good boy so far? )

Yes.

Now continue to be good.

You have a lot more to offer than being the token asshole.

tojo2000 wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

Who said his name 3 times?

HKG, was it you?

I don't think anyone here gets what the Tea Party is about. It is about the rampant spending of the new administration bailing out corporations.

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Um... really?  Based on what?  I've seen over 100 photos of these events all across the country.  There is only one tenuous theme:  taxes.  Some think there shouldn't be any, some think theirs are being raised (statistically making 95% of that group complete morans), and the majority is a hodge podge of every possible gripe from gun control to fascism to immigration.  Where do you get the idea that the tea parties are "about spending".  At best you could say that spending is the primary cause of some of the people there.

Wow, you are sure about to look stupid.

I went to the Tax Day Tea Party website and simply clicked on the "about" tab (http://taxdayteaparty.com/about/)

Here is what I got:

Tax Day Tea Party

The Tax Day Tea Party is a national collaborative grassroots effort organized by Smart Girl Politics, Top Conservatives on Twitter, the DontGo Movement and many other online groups/coalitions.

The Tea Party protests, in their current form, began in early 2009 when Rick Santelli, the On Air Editor for CNBC, set out on a rant to expose the bankrupt liberal agenda of the White House Administration and Congress. Specifically, the flawed “Stimulus Bill” and pork filled budget.

During Rick’s rant (see video below), he called for a “Chicago tea Party” where advocates of the free-market system could join in a protest against out of control government spending.

A few days later, grassroots activists and average Joe Americans began organizing what would soon become the Nationwide Chicago Tea Party effort.

On February 27th, an estimated 30,000 Americans took to the street in 40+ cities accross the country in the first nationwide “Tea Party” protest.

Organizers of the February 27th events pledged to continue on with an even bigger and better protest to follow the first. With April 15th being “Tax Day”, it was decided to schedule the second round of Tea Party protests to ride alongside the tax deadline.

And with that, the “Tax Day Tea Party”, the second round of the Nationwide Tea Party protests, moved into reality.

Wow, on the Tax Day Tea party website, the Tea Party folk tell you what they are about. Show me where it says anything about not paying taxes? Seems they are EXACTLY about what I said (spending).

You know, sometimes you should learn more than what your liberal handlers are telling you. They want you to think it is a bunch of kooks who want to do away with taxes.

Sorry, but, umm, Tojo, you (and everyone else on here, and Obermann) just got made a complete fool of (and Horse, too!). None of you knew what you were talking about and I did.

How does it feel to get it so hard from someone like me?

hehehehehe

(I RULE!)

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