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jesusluvspegging · 2009-04-16 20:47:17

I'll tell you what's unethical. Unethical is giving an old-ass alzheimer's victim who doesn't know who is who and what is what antibiotics and making him keep living like a God Damned vegetable, THAT is fucking unethical. God Damned ass-covering bastards. I could murder every one of those bastards while screaming "UNETHICAL! UNETHICAL! UNETHICAL!"

Sons of fucking bitches. So terrified of malpractice lawsuits that they don't understand legal documents when you wave them at their immacuately-coiffed fucking watched too much God Damned ER in med school heads.

Cocksucking pill-popping nurse-boffing shitbirds.

orangeplus · 2009-04-16 20:48:35

Blame Tom Delay

jesusluvspegging · 2009-04-16 20:51:11

Fucking Tom Delay. I'll take that motherfucker in a fair fight any time and place he cares to name.

...if by "fair" you mean I'm walking away with at least one of his eyeballs. What a shitheel.

GooberMcNutly · 2009-04-17 09:20:19

Pill pushing is right. I have been in a 9 month battle with my doctors to get some simple surgery. But every time I go there they throw a prescription at me and tell me to try it for a couple of weeks to see how it works. Not even 5 minutes of their time and I have to troop out and spend another $200 on pills that alleviate SYMPTOMS. Doesn't anybody actually CURE anything any more? After all, real surgery would take like a whole hour of the doctors time. I mean, is it really worth wasting an hour of time to make a measly $14,000 on the procedure and run the possibility of making a mistake and having to pay some lawyer to get him out of a malpractice suit when all he has to do is scribble a line on a Rx pad and walk away $200 richer?

fnord · 2009-04-17 15:39:02

jesusluvspegging wrote:
I'll tell you what's unethical. Unethical is giving an old-ass alzheimer's victim who doesn't know who is who and what is what antibiotics and making him keep living like a God Damned vegetable, THAT is fucking unethical. God Damned ass-covering bastards. I could murder every one of those bastards while screaming "UNETHICAL! UNETHICAL! UNETHICAL!"

Sons of fucking bitches. So terrified of malpractice lawsuits that they don't understand legal documents when you wave them at their immacuately-coiffed fucking watched too much God Damned ER in med school heads.

Cocksucking pill-popping nurse-boffing shitbirds.

When the time came to let my father go, I had to threaten the doctor and hospital with legal action if they didn’t honor my father’s living will. My dad was with the program mentally until about two weeks before his death, and any doctor who had treated him during the prior decade was presented with a copy of his living will during the first visit. Dad wasn’t worried about being dead, but he had an absolute terror of a long painful process of getting there. The thought of weeks or months connected to a respirator and other machinery during his final days was enough to keep him awake at night. It may be time for you to see a lawyer and have him send a letter explaining that a living will is a clear expression of the patient’s wishes while he was still able to make such decisions, and that ignoring it may prove to be expensive.

jesusluvspegging · 2009-04-17 22:44:10

We finally got a doctor who knew what he was doing would obey the fucking law. The end will probably be in the next couple days. Poor old bastard. What a man. if he does it in the next 1:17 it'll be on his wedding anniversary, which would be just like him.

Unfortunately, Doctor Won't-Read-The-Living-Will-Gonna-Get-His-Ass-Kicked-If-I-Ever-Get-Him-Alone probably managed to put it off a day or two.

karenw · 2009-04-18 08:02:45

Jesus, you did good. My sister and I are advocates for my mom, who has a chronic, un-fixable health condition, and I know the frustration and exhaustion that can accompany such a role.

PS - sorry to hear about your dad. I've talked to Him off and on for years, and he's always struck me as a pretty good guy.

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whosasailorthen · 2009-04-18 08:48:22

I had to do the same for my Dad, JLP, three years ago. He put me down as his medical POA and in that he stated that if he were ever in a condition where there was little if any hope of his ever regaining enough function to have joy in life, then I was instructed to advise medical personnel to allow him to die a natural death and not give medication. Well, he was in advanced vascular dementia and barely able to visualize reality at that point, and was bedridden and in pain... and then he developed pneumonia... doctors assured me that if they gave him antibiotics they could save him, but as they say, pneumonia is the "old man's friend", and I had to convince them that it was his will to be allowed to meet his maker on his own terms. Fortunately, in my case, I had very clear paperwork that defined his wishes and I acted on them to the letter and spirit, and after having discussed this with him back when he was lucid.

Lesson:

Make a living will. Make it clear and unambiguous. Tell at least three friends about it and where it is, and give them notary-certified copies. And have at least two medical POA's that you can trust who live near you.

I'm sorry for your impending loss, JLP. I hope he had a good innings. You'll still feel like a shit for having a hand in seeing him off, but always remember that you are doing what he wanted.

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George Orr · 2009-04-18 10:30:53

My mother went through a similar experience with her father. She was in her 60s herself and had to fight and fight and fight without rest to let her father die...Finally a sympathetic RN gave her some coaching about exactly who in the hospital hierarchy to deal with, and exactly what phrases to use, and she got it done.

Thing is, she still felt horribly guilty about it afterward even though she knew it was a) what he wanted and b) the right thing to do. She finally confided in me, and I told her what I'll pass on to you: She was taking care of her father when she did what she did. And she suffered a great deal in doing so. It was painful and ugly but it was honoring her father.

Best wishes to all of you who have to go through this; I hope that when my own time for this comes along you will wish the same to me.

jesusluvspegging · 2009-04-18 13:17:04

karenw wrote:
PS - sorry to hear about your dad. I've talked to Him off and on for years, and he's always struck me as a pretty good guy.

Grandfather, actually.

...and enough with the sympathy, guys (appreciate it though I do), I came here for Cruel brand tough love. Make me laugh. Make me angry. Something...

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